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Air Supply Interview (Russell Hitchcock) + First Bachelor Winner

Episode Summary

Air Supply Interview (Russell Hitchcock) + First Bachelor Winner + Kanye for President + Brie Larson new Youtube channel + Yacht Rock Top 10 + Hamilton and more.

Episode Notes

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Russell Hitchcock from Air Supply guest hosts today’s episode as we discuss Kanye for President, Brie Larson’s new YouTube Channel, Yacht Rock Top 10, Hamilton, and more. Air Supply has been together 45 years and never had a fight; what’s their secret? Why is the Golden Gate bridge making a sound that should be featured in Unsolved Mysteries? Find out answers to these questions in our conversation. Additionally, the winner of The Bachelor Season 1, Amanda Marsh, joins us to talk about what happens behind the scenes of The Bachelor and what her life was like after the show.

 

What to listen for:

02:04 Russell Hitchcock from Air Supply joins us as today’s guest host

08:14 Why is the Golden Gate bridge making a sound that should be featured in Unsolved Mysteries?

09:37 Caught by the Twitter police: Foo Fighters and Rick Astley have played together

13:54 Interview with Russell Hitchcock. How did you come up with the name Air Supply? Why did past members of Air Supply come and go? Who is the most significant person you’ve met?

22:12 Celebrity Sleaze: Beavis and Butt-Head make a comeback

24:33 Celebrity Sleaze: Kanye West runs for president

25:17 Celebrity Sleaze: Ghislaine Maxwell arrested for assisting Jeffery Epstein

27:04 What to watch on Netflix

29:18 Celebrity Sleaze: Ellen accused of being mean to coworkers

30:25  Celebrity Sleaze: Brie Larson hosts a YouTube channel

33:11 Interview with Amanda Marsh, winner of The Bachelor Season 1: Behind the scenes secrets of The Bachelor

39:27 Life for Amanda Marsh after The Bachelor

43:48 Hamilton on Disney+

46:57 Yacht Rock Top 10

 

Episode Transcription

Speaker 1:

Welcome to the Pop Culture Show with Barnes, Leslie, and Cubby.

Barnes:

Welcome to another thrilling episode of the Pop Culture Show. Barnes, Leslie, Cubby, what's going on, guys?

Leslie:

Hey.

Cubby:

Hey, what's happening with you. Where are you right now?

Barnes:

I'm in a mystery location.

Cubby:

And somebody very special next to you, which you have to explain in just a bit.

Barnes:

I will explain. We'll explain everything. Don't forget first to please rate, review, and subscribe. See, we're becoming professional podcasters. They all say that you have to say that.

Leslie:

We are?

Cubby:

Yeah.

Leslie:

Okay.

Barnes:

Please, rate, review, and subscribe. So literally take your phone out right now and subscribe wherever you listen to your podcasts. A couple of show notes of note, the Pop Culture Show now on the iHeart Radio app.

Cubby:

Yeah, round of applause, please.

Leslie:

Excellent.

Barnes:

A round of applause. That's Cubby's employer.

Leslie:

Thank you. Thanks, iHeart.

Cubby:

That's right.

Barnes:

Cubby's on iHeart. What's your station again where people can listen to you in New York?

Cubby:

106.7 Lite FM with Cubby and Christine in the morning. Check us out, but I believe we're featured this week on the iHeart Radio app.

Barnes:

Really?

Cubby:

I think. Don't hold me to it, but I think we're in a special section, so hello to all the newbies.

Barnes:

We, the show?

Cubby:

We, the show, yes. No, this show is being featured this week, so we may have a lot of new people come into the doors.

Leslie:

How much did that cost us?

Cubby:

Leslie, if you only knew.

Barnes:

Also, now, I'm very excited to say that we are now in Teslas all around the world, finally.

Leslie:

We're in Teslas?

Barnes:

We had to Elon. I'm like, "Elon, bro, the Pop Culture Show," and finally, just like that, it showed up. So just type in the Pop Culture Show in your Tesla and you will find us.

Barnes:

Next week, our guest, want to point out because she has a lot of fans, Melissa Ponzio will be on with us from Teen Wolf. A lot of people know her from Teen Wolf. MTV's bringing Teen Wolf back this summer, and they're rolling out the entire series. She's currently on Chicago Fire on NBC. She was in the Walking Dead, she's also in that new Melissa McCarthy movie coming out. I'm not sure the name of it, but she's got a big role in that, so she'll be on with us next week. Her name's Melissa Ponzio.

Barnes:

But this week, you guys ready to bring it... We have a cohost this week. Not just an interview, but a full-on cohost that's going to be employed for this episode only.

Cubby:

Me and Fram should leave? We're done? We're off?

Barnes:

You should leave. (singing)

Cubby:

On, I know this song.

Barnes:

You head it before?

Cubby:

Yeah, a few times.

Barnes:

How about this one? (singing)

Cubby:

Hit after hit.

Barnes:

I can go as long as you want me to. (singing)

Cubby:

Couples only.

Barnes:

Should I keep going? (singing)

Leslie:

Keep going.

Barnes:

Cubby's a pantomiming that one. That's good.

Cubby:

I'm thinking about the roller skate DJ saying, "Couples only," right now. Couples only.

Barnes:

Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome our cohost from the multi-platinum band, Air Supply, Russell Hitchcock is here.

Cubby:

Unreal.

Leslie:

Good morning.

Russel Hitchcock:

Thanks man, thank you, world. Thanks for having me.

Barnes:

Absolutely.

Russel Hitchcock:

A real blast from the past those songs that you just played.

Barnes:

Yeah, I asked them the other day. I said, "Man, you've been off so much during coronavirus, you should probably get a prompter because when you go back, I would be so confused with the word love in so many songs, I would be singing the wrong verse in the wrong song."

Russel Hitchcock:

Well, that's the good part about having love in every song because it's a frequent lyric. Hard to forget.

Leslie:

How did you get a legend on this podcast, Barnes?

Barnes:

It's a crazy story.

Russel Hitchcock:

Well, it's a nice day for... I'm sorry. I thought you were talking to me.

Barnes:

Yes. Yes. We met several years ago on a plane. Russel was there with his soon-to-be wife, Deanna, and their dog Chili. And we were sitting in the same area, and then we ended up sitting in the same area of the plane. I think Heather started talking to Deanna. Yeah.

Cubby:

Your wife.

Barnes:

Yeah.

Cubby:

Right.

Barnes:

Started talking to Deanna. And then we get to L.A. It's like, okay, see you later. See you later. The place we were staying was four doors down from where Air Supply was playing that night.

Cubby:

It was meant to be.

Barnes:

That was the craziest part of it. Literally, we drove past the marquee. It was very weird.

Cubby:

Then Russell wrote a song about it. We're so close. It was meant to be together.

Barnes:

Since then, here's a little side secret. We've spent every Christmas together for the last X amount of years. We have a routine Christmas hang.

Leslie:

Wow!

Barnes:

And then during the year-

Leslie:

I have major FOMO hearing you say that.

Cubby:

Yeah, I didn't know that. I knew you were friends, but I didn't know it was almost like family here.

Barnes:

Every Christmas, and every night when The Bachelor's on. Those are the two times that we get together.

Cubby:

That's beautiful.

Barnes:

Literally, we watch Bachelor episodes. We do a home and away, so they'll come over and watch with me and Heather, and we'll come over and watch with Russel and Deanna.

Russel Hitchcock:

And our dog-

Cubby:

Chili.

Russel Hitchcock:

...freaks out Steve's cats.

Barnes:

Yes. It's a very comical, we should be filming that for a little side bar reality show, probably.

Cubby:

Russell, where do you call home now? Are you living in Atlanta where Barnes is and-

Russel Hitchcock:

Yep. I live in Atlanta. In fact, we only live about 15 minutes from each other, so.

Barnes:

Yeah.

Cubby:

Very cool.

Barnes:

We're in his basement right now. That's the mystery location.

Russel Hitchcock:

Yeah.

Cubby:

Oh!

Leslie:

And Russell, you-

Barnes:

I wish I could show you all the cool guitars and platinum records and stuff.

Leslie:

Maybe you could walk around later and show us.

Barnes:

Well, Leslie, we're audio, remember?

Leslie:

Oh, that's right. I forgot.

Barnes:

Yeah.

Leslie:

So Russell, you guys have been touring non-stop since you started in the 70s.

Russel Hitchcock:

Correct.

Leslie:

How crazy has it been for you now with COVID not being able to be on the road?

Russel Hitchcock:

This is the biggest break we've had since 1975. I think we would take a week or two weeks off here once every couple years, but now, it's going on... Well, we played our last two shows in March. It's quite interesting to me too, with the COVID thing. Just before we played our last two shows, we got a lot of flack from certain fans saying, how dare you put people's lives at risk, and-

Barnes:

Oh, that's coming up everywhere.

Russel Hitchcock:

Yeah, yeah. We were obligated to play, so we played. And everybody loved the fact that we were there, so consequently the whole thing gets locked down, showbiz, everything gets locked down. So then we get mail saying, it's really unfair that you played for those guys, but you won't play for us. So you can't win for losing is the saying, right?

Cubby:

Right. I've been seeing country artists lately doing outdoor shows, and people just pulling up. Ever thought about doing just some outdoor venues?

Russel Hitchcock:

Well, with the last two shows we played were outdoor venues, but even from a punters point of view, I wouldn't want to be sitting next to somebody I didn't know right now. I saw a couple of country acts doing their thing. People jammed in front of the stage. No masks. It just doesn't make any sense to me.

Barnes:

I just saw Wal-Mart's going to start doing concerts or-

Russel Hitchcock:

Drive in. Drive ins.

Barnes:

They're going to turn their mega lots.

Leslie:

Yeah, the parking lots. Wal-Marts all over the country. They're just trying to find a way to get people back to normal, but you're right, Russell. You put people at risk.

Russel Hitchcock:

Yep, and as the numbers keep going, people keep getting more stupid.

Barnes:

This weekend, the footage on television is out of control from every state everywhere. People are just like, "F it. I'm done. Yeah, it's July 4th. I'm done. I'm in."

Russel Hitchcock:

Yep.

Barnes:

So anyway, Russell's going to be here throughout the whole show, through Celebrity Sleaze, through this, through that. We also have Amanda Marsh coming up, who, tonight, on ABC, the Bachelor Greatest of All Time, which I've been watching religiously because I don't miss an episode of any of that whole franchise, she was the first winner. So it will be very interesting to talk to her 20 years later after that disrupted her life.

Barnes:

Little does she know, think about it, you're filming the first season of The Bachelor. You don't even know if it's going to air.

Cubby:

Now, Barnes, I have a question for you. I want you to clarify for people because maybe I'm an idiot here, but maybe some people are thinking what I'm thinking. I thought Trista was the first winner. Trista and Ryan.

Barnes:

No. No, no, no. Trista was the runner-up on the first season. Alex Michel was the bachelor. Then Amanda won, air quotes, won The Bachelor. Trista became the first bachelorette.

Cubby:

I see.

Barnes:

So she was the real winner in it because Amanda's relationship fizzled at that time. People didn't know what from a dating show... nothing had been done like that before.

Cubby:

Right. We're going back to 2003 here. It's been a while now.

Leslie:

Barnes, I'm really impressed about your Bachelor and Bachelorette knowledge. Really impressed.

Barnes:

I do flush the knowledge at the end of each season, just FYI. I'm not like a historian, but-

Leslie:

Sounds like you are.

Barnes:

Well, no, but I know her. She filled in for you, Leslie, on 99X years ago. That's why you don't know her.

Leslie:

I'll have to thank her years later.

Barnes:

Have you seen this story out of San Francisco about this Golden Gate problem? Have you guys heard about this?

Cubby:

I have not.

Russel Hitchcock:

Uh-uh. (negative)

Barnes:

Check this out. So the bridge, at night, is making this noise, and this is very strange.

Barnes:

The wind is causing this, so the neighbors are completely freaking out, and all the officials in San Francisco are trying to figure out what to do.

Cubby:

Well, why now too? All these years.

Barnes:

I don't know if they made some... it was first reported June 5th, and it's the northwest winds hitting the bridge's sidewalk railings. Oh, they've been installed recently.

Cubby:

Oh, there you go.

Barnes:

They retrofit them, and then everyone gets finished, and they sit back, and like, "Okay, great." Then-

Leslie:

It's like a soundtrack to a horror film.

Barnes:

Can you imagine? Yeah, I thought it was promotion for Unsolved Mysteries, which just came back on Netflix, literally.

Cubby:

The is creepy.

Russel Hitchcock:

How loud is it when you're there?

Barnes:

Loud. People are complaining nonstop. They said you can hear it all through the neighborhoods that are anywhere near the Golden Gate Bridge.

Cubby:

Now, Russell, if you put a drumbeat behind that, you could turn that into a hit, right?

Russel Hitchcock:

You could probably turn it into anything. It sounds creepy, though.

Barnes:

Put a little sample at the beginning. We also have a mop up from last week. We got blown up on social media.

Cubby:

Oh, yeah.

Leslie:

We did.

Cubby:

Twitter police. The Twitter police were out and about.

Barnes:

Twitter police slammed us down. Somehow, neither of the three of us, with our wealth of knowledge, knew that the Foo Fighters and Rick Astley had played together. Damn it!

Leslie:

That's okay. We were corrected. We stand corrected.

Barnes:

No, we were all saying, "Why hasn't Dave Grohl done anything?"

Leslie:

With Rick Astley, yeah.

Barnes:

Yeah. Well, so listen to this. FYI, when Dave gets excited, Dave curses a lot, so just know that the clip that I'm about to play has a lot of that in it. This was... I'm not sure what year.

Dave Grohl:

Let me tell you something. Every once in a while, you meet a bad ass mother fucker that has the balls to come up and do something in front of 30,000 people that he's never done before. I would like to introduce that bad ass mother fucker right now. Would you please welcome the most badass mother fucker, Rick Astley! Let's hear it for Rick Astley right fucking now!

Barnes:

I'm just going to play a little bit of the song because it sounds cool.

Rick Astley:

Hey, Dave.

Dave Grohl:

How are you?

Rick Astley:

I'm good.

Dave Grohl:

Why are you fucking yelling at me right now?

Rick Astley:

Because I'm very nervous, Dave.

Dave Grohl:

Well, watch this shit because I feel like we're going to make a new moment right now.

Barnes:

He's Nirvana-izing the song.

Rick Astley:

(singing)

Cubby:

Wow.

Barnes:

So cool. I don't know how we didn't know about that.

Leslie:

That sounds great.

Cubby:

Should we be concerned that our first one together, we kind of missed a little bit?

Barnes:

Screwed up.

Cubby:

Yeah, screwed up a little bit. We did half our research, really.

Barnes:

We were focused on other things.

Cubby:

Yeah.

Russel Hitchcock:

I actually saw that. I saw that video, actually.

Barnes:

Isn't it cool?

Russel Hitchcock:

Awesome. And, bit a trivia too, the drummer for Foo Fighters, Taylor Hawkins, he called me up about six months ago and asked me if I would sing on his solo album.

Barnes:

Really?

Russel Hitchcock:

But we couldn't get it together.

Barnes:

That guy's awesome.

Russel Hitchcock:

That's a complement though.

Barnes:

Big time. He's played drums for everybody, Matthew Sweet, Alanis Morissette, Foo Fighters.

Russel Hitchcock:

Amazing drummer.

Barnes:

Amazing drummer. I remember seeing him in Atlanta at a small, 100... What does [inaudible 00:12:42] Bar hold? Like 150.

Leslie:

Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Barnes:

Playing with, I think, Matthew Sweet at the time. It was very cool. Who have you on stage, Russell?

Leslie:

Yeah. I was going to ask that.

Russel Hitchcock:

Nobody really of note.

Barnes:

No one that's just happened to be there.

Russel Hitchcock:

The only one that was a minor celebrity was Glen Campbell.

Barnes:

Minor.

Russel Hitchcock:

He played a guitar on Maybe the Nights Are Better in concert with us once.

Barnes:

Glen Campbell?

Russel Hitchcock:

Yes, he did.

Leslie:

Russell, did you ever meet any musicians along the way that you were surprised they were huge Air Supply fans, like any big rock gods or anything?

Russel Hitchcock:

Well, I guess the biggest one is Rudy Sarzo.

Barnes:

From Quiet Riot?

Russel Hitchcock:

Played bass for everybody.

Cubby:

And Ozzy?

Russel Hitchcock:

Yeah.

Cubby:

[inaudible 00:13:25].

Russel Hitchcock:

In fact, the first time I met him in the '80s, we were at this little famous club in Los Angeles called The Rainbow and we were talking and he said he was a big fan and it's always hard for me to believe that people of his ilk would like Air Supply. In any case, his parting comment was, "Whatever you do, don't tell anybody that I like your band because my band mates will give me shit for the rest of my life if I cop to being an Air Supply fan."

Cubby:

Hey Russell, can I ask you a very... it's a cheesy DJ question, one I try to avoid when I do radio interviews, because it's a soft ball question here, but I really want to know. The name Air Supply - how did you guys get that?

Russel Hitchcock:

We recorded a few demos when I was in Jesus Christ Superstar with Graham in '76, and we didn't have a name for the band and we couldn't think of anything. Quite simply, and it's a cheesy answer, Graham came in the next day and said "I had a dream last night, I saw the billboard with lights around it and it said Air Supply in the middle." That's-

Barnes:

And that was it?

Russel Hitchcock:

That was it.

Cubby:

That was it.

Leslie:

I didn't know that story! Cubby, actually thank you for asking that.

Cubby:

Oh.

Barnes:

You guys just celebrated what, your 50th anniversary together, right?

Russel Hitchcock:

45 years.

Barnes:

45 years. 45 years together, not a fight, not one time?

Russel Hitchcock:

Not a fight. We don't have reason to fight, I mean I love his songs, he's a great guy, and he's six foot five so you don't want to fight with him anyway.

Barnes:

What was it like... when you guys first broke, what year was that? When your music broke and the fame started happening.

Russel Hitchcock:

1980.

Barnes:

So was it weird being two guys singing duets, did you guys get any flack from people?

Russel Hitchcock:

Oh, of course. Part of our shtick in the show used to be that I would say to people we sing with each other, not to each other.

Barnes:

Yeah.

Russel Hitchcock:

We've been accused of being gay and bi-

Barnes:

That's just the internet. People are stupid.

Russel Hitchcock:

Well this was before the internet.

Barnes:

Well, you know what I mean. There was still that thought process before the internet, pre-internet thought process.

Russel Hitchcock:

You can't be two guys singing songs together and not be involved in a relationship.

Barnes:

What do you think of the whole term yacht rock, being thrown in that?

Russel Hitchcock:

I don't even know what that-

Cubby:

He just asked me what it was.

Russel Hitchcock:

I didn't even know what it was until 20 minutes ago.

Leslie:

Oh, we're going to school him.

Barnes:

It's amazing that your voice seems to get better over time, and the record... your voice sounds better than the record now, and that could be that the technology wasn't as good then also, the mixing and mastering has all changed.

Russel Hitchcock:

Well, I don't agree with that. When I listen to the few snippets that you played, my voice has dropped quite a bit, and it's much more difficult to do it now. In the old days, especially in the 80s, we'd be on the road for 10 months a year on a bus, not go home, we'd play four shows a week, go out and party really hard every night-

Barnes:

I don't believe that for a minute.

Russel Hitchcock:

And get up and do it again the next evening. Now it's like, I do a show, have a glass of wine and it takes me three days to recuperate.

Barnes:

But you're still playing, how many gigs a week? Not talking coronavirus obviously you're paused.

Russel Hitchcock:

Well, we do about 130 shows a year, so if you do the math it's a lot of shows.

Barnes:

That's a lot of shows, that's like every three days at least doing a show.

Russel Hitchcock:

Yep, absolutely.

Cubby:

So Russell I noticed, I know Wikipedia isn't always right, but it says past members, and there's like 30 of them. There's a lot of past members of Air Supply.

Russel Hitchcock:

I couldn't even name all of them. In the very beginning, there were three of us - unfortunately we had to part company with one of the guys, and then we figured... well we kind of knew that Graham and I would be together for as long as Air Supply was alive, so we figured we'd just do all the publicity, all the stuff ourselves. In fact, we just put out a new tour book a couple years ago, and the drummer that was in the book left, so it's very difficult. But people want more money, they get big heads, they get whatever they do. Some guys just can't hack the road any more, some stop playing with us on the road because they have families that they need to take care of at home.

Barnes:

That's got to be tough coming into such an established band, that you can't expect that you're going to have equal... that you'll be involved in every aspect of a band that's been around 30, 40-

Russel Hitchcock:

No, no. It's made very clear to them now that we want them to play with us, and they're more than happy all of them because we get to play all over the world, places that I'd never dreamed of playing before. We've been to Vietnam, Dubai, and Beirut. As long as they're happy, and as long as they want to do their job, we're cool with it. But it's like anything, the business you guys are in, sometimes you love it, sometimes you hate it, sometimes you want to leave, sometimes you do.

Leslie:

Russell, being such an international star and being the lead singer of Air Supply, along the way you probably have met some pretty cool people I'm sure. Is there one person that has stood out to you all along the way that you've met, that you look back on and went wow, that was pretty cool.

Russel Hitchcock:

Yeah, we played a show in India, in '95 I think, we were getting a VH1 award for something over there, and the acts on the same bill were Robert Plant, Brian May and Roger Taylor from Queen, Bryan Adams, and a bunch of others. Concert was held in a football stadium, so the back stage was just a bunch of pipes and drape curtains, there were no dressing rooms per se. I was walking to go where we were stationed, and I saw Robert Plant, and I freaked out because he's Robert Plant. He had a bunch of reporters around him, and they all had their microphones stuck in his face, and as I got to within, I don't know, four or five feet, I heard him say excuse me, and he broke it up and he put his hand out and said "I'm Robert Plant, it's a pleasure to meet you."

Barnes:

Wow.

Russel Hitchcock:

And that's the biggest thrill of my life, for sure.

Barnes:

What about... didn't you meet Princess Diana at one point?

Russel Hitchcock:

Yeah, yeah.

Barnes:

What was that?

Russel Hitchcock:

We played for the Australian bicentennial in 1988 in Sydney, every act that had ever had any success in Australia was there, and of course there was the greeting line at the end of the performances. So we got to meet Prince Charles and her, she was beautiful inside and out. Gorgeous in ever manner, her personality, her compassion, her interest in... you thought you were the only person in the world when she was speaking to you. That was another big thrill, thanks for the reminder.

Barnes:

What did she... what did she say to you? Because I'm sure she was aware of Air Supply.

Russel Hitchcock:

Well, I can't be verbatim, but I know that she said she loved the music, but her biggest... I had this sterling silver bow tie, and she was quite fascinated with that for five minutes.

Barnes:

Really?

Russel Hitchcock:

Yeah, I love your bow tie, where did you get it, what's it made from?

Barnes:

Did you get a big hug from her?

Russel Hitchcock:

Are you kidding me?

Cubby:

What about a picture, do you have a picture?

Russel Hitchcock:

Well, actually if you YouTube 'Air Supply Princess Diana' you'll get to see us have a chat for a couple of minutes.

Barnes:

I bet she was beautiful in person.

Russel Hitchcock:

Yes, stunning.

Barnes:

Stunning.

Cubby:

You know, some of my favorite groups have come out of Australia in addition to you guys. Off the top of my head, I don't even have this written down, Ice House is amazing, Minute Work, In Excess, AC/DC, have you hung out with any of these groups?

Russel Hitchcock:

In the early days, '76 and '77 we were on the road in Australia quite a bit, and in those days it didn't matter what you played, what kind of music, everybody was happy to have a job, everybody was happy to be able to do what they loved, and I went to do my laundry in one of the hotels we were staying at once, in three in the morning, and Bon Scott was there.

Barnes:

No!

Russel Hitchcock:

Yeah. So we had a chat for a couple hours, and once again totally unexpected, appreciated each others' success and talents. Just another great guy.

Barnes:

If you're listening and you don't know who that is, that was the lead singer of AC/DC, the original.

Russel Hitchcock:

And of course we were good friends with Little River Band.

Barnes:

Oh, right!

Russel Hitchcock:

When they were in Australia, all of the original guys were there. They were great guys. Ice House I knew Ivan pretty good, the singer song writer.

Barnes:

It's the Australian brotherhood.

Russel Hitchcock:

There you go. We used to call it the Australian mafia.

Barnes:

Mafia!

Russel Hitchcock:

All right, well we do a little thing on this show called Celebrity Sleaze Russell, the rules are Leslie delivers the latest celebrity news and you can chime in with any remark that you might have, at any time.

Barnes:

Okay.

Russel Hitchcock:

She's very used to being interrupted.

Leslie:

Yeah, we have to stop the show because honestly, when this news broke, the first person I thought about was Barnes. Barnes is now going to be able relive the 90s, because Beavis and Butt-Head are coming back to Comedy Central. Barnes, were you just overwhelmed when you heard this news?

Barnes:

I stopped in my tracks, immediately put the sirens out, I cannot believe that is coming back.

Leslie:

It's coming back.

Cubby:

You know Barnes, when I just started to get to know you, I remember you quoting Beavis and Butt-Head all the time when we talked on the phone or hung out, like oh yeah, okay sure. We have to like, only at burger world for 30 days. Like that Sherlock dude. Cool.

Barnes:

I mean, I can't get enough of Beavis and Butt-head, and I can't even imagine what the content is going to be like now, Comedy Central-

Leslie:

Yeah, it's Comedy Central. Mike Judge is obviously writing in, doing the voices, but he said it's-

Barnes:

I thought it was Adult Swim?

Leslie:

He said that no, it's Comedy Central.

Barnes:

Is it? Okay, good.

Leslie:

He said that it seemed like the time to get stupid again, but it's going to be... obviously for Gen Z and Barnes, Cubby.

Cubby:

Unreal.

Barnes:

We were on vacation in Mexico, I was on a shoot, and Heather brought one of her friends, and her friend's child was 12, and he was doing those stupid things that 12-year-old boys do, and I kept saying sit down Beavis, and he was like, what? Looking at me like, what? And so I got the iPad out, and I teed up an episode and sat him in the corner, and said you are going to watch al seven minutes of this Beavis and Butt-Head right now huh. He just... it was like an awakening of a child.

Russel Hitchcock:

A transformation.

Cubby:

That movie is still funny too, that movie was on HBO a couple of days ago randomly, Beavis and Butt-Head do America or something? And it was... it still holds up. There are a couple of things that are dated, but it's still funny.

Russel Hitchcock:

I couldn't stand them.

Barnes:

Come on, Russell!

Leslie:

Russell, for the win!

Barnes:

Did they ever make fun of you, the band?

Russel Hitchcock:

I don't... well I didn't watch them, I couldn't stand them.

Leslie:

You mentioned Elon Musk earlier, he's got very excited about some news that broke this week, that Kanye West is running for president.

Barnes:

Is this just a bit? Is this for real?

Leslie:

I... it sounds like it might be for real.

Cubby:

And Kim is backing him too! Kim is 100% behind him, I'd love to see what he does. I mean, who knows, he might surprise us!

Barnes:

You know he's a big Trump lover.

Russel Hitchcock:

God help us.

Cubby:

Yeah.

Barnes:

Can you imagine Kanye in the White House? Just visualize that for a second.

Cubby:

And I think Russell just came up with the campaign slogan, God Help Us. Get those on shirts right now, please.

Leslie:

So I don't know if you guys have obviously been following the news, I watched closely the Jeffrey Epstein docu-series on Netflix.

Barnes:

That's a must see.

Leslie:

His companion/long time girlfriend Ghislaine Maxwell has been arrested by the FBI, similar charges obviously, but-

Barnes:

Scum bag.

Leslie:

Over the weekend, Alan Dershowitz, who had one time defended Jeffrey Epstein, wrote this op-ed and said hey, don't believe everything you've heard, he doesn't believe anything of course because he was accused as well. He doesn't really believe the women that were the accusers in the Netflix series, and so he's basically sticking up for Ghislaine, so we'll see. But by the way, who has all the tapes, the video tapes, from those cameras at all his complexes?

Barnes:

Good question. They disappeared quick, there was definitely inside trading going on with the police departments in those different cities, because they were able to get that stuff out of there so fast. If you haven't seen the Netflix documentary, you've got to watch it, it's fascinating.

Cubby:

There's some scary people out there, right?

Russel Hitchcock:

Absolutely.

Cubby:

There's a list.

Russel Hitchcock:

I was really... I watched the show with much interest as well, I couldn't... which is true, Dershowitz said it's not my job to do anything that prove a reasonable doubt to get this guy off, whether I think he's guilty, I know he did it, of course he said he didn't because he was involved in the whole shebang, but the guy was a horrible, horrible person. Obviously we shouldn't judge her before she gets her day in court, but it looks it... because we are.

Barnes:

She's right there with him.

Russel Hitchcock:

She's just as big a scum bag as he was.

Barnes:

So bad.

Leslie:

Yeah, the cover of the New York Post was like, Who's Afraid? Everyone on the list. So it remains to be seen. Have you guys watched any movies? What have you been watching on Netflix?

Barnes:

I'm still wrapping up Liar, and started Unsolved Mysteries which came back on July 1st to Netflix, and it's excellent, very well done, very well shot. No movies though. Oh, well Hamilton! Duh.

Leslie:

We're going to talk about Hamilton in a little while. Have you watched anything, Cubby?

Cubby:

No, you know we're watching old stuff. I told you last week, Schitt's Creek we're still watching because we never watched it when it came out-

Russel Hitchcock:

Great show, great show.

Cubby:

It's an easy watch Russell, and it's quick. Each episode is only 21 minutes, so you can kind of bail out and take a break whenever you want, it's really funny.

Barnes:

I couldn't stick. What about you, Russell?

Russel Hitchcock:

How about Ozark?

Cubby:

I've heard great things about Ozark, are you recommending it too?

Barnes:

You have not seen that?

Cubby:

No.

Leslie:

Yeah, you'd love and I was-

Barnes:

Cubby.

Leslie:

Going to mention that they've just renewed it for a fourth season. Marty Bird, coming back.

Barnes:

Fourth and last, it's going to be the last season. Russell, what are you watching right now?

Russel Hitchcock:

I'm actually watching some foreign movies on Netflix, all with subtitles. There seems to be a trend, because I like horror and mystery and slasher-

Cubby:

Well your last name is Hitchcock, so it has to be.

Russel Hitchcock:

Do the math, right? But they're all... they all seem to be based in forests either in Russia, Czechoslovakia, or the Eastern bloc states. All involve teenagers being murdered somehow, and crusty old detectives teaming up to find who did it. And I can't... I think The Dark is the one I just started to watch. Great shows, and of course I'm good at subtitles. A lot of people don't want to watch movies because they can't be interested in reading at the same time as watching. And I'm all over that.

Leslie:

My husband, as soon as he hears its subtitles he's like, I'm out.

Barnes:

Out.

Leslie:

If you're a Curb Your Enthusiasm freak, HBO has renewed that for Season 11.

Barnes:

Yes!

Leslie:

Which is incredible.

Barnes:

I hope it doesn't take five years to do another season. He's 70, almost 75 now? Let's pick up the pace, so we have you around to do those other seasons.

Leslie:

If you want to watch something completely silly and funny at the same time, Will Ferrell and Rachel McAdams in Eurovision on Netflix, we watched that the other night just to get away from the news for a second. Now Cubby, I know that you do a morning radio show, what are people saying about Ellen and all those stories about Ellen being mean, and for a while people thought her show was going to be canceled, but obviously it's not. Some crazy things from people that have worked on the show that have said she's mean, she picks on people, she's not a nice person.

Cubby:

Right, we touched on it and we were kind of surprised.

Leslie:

I was surprised, too.

Cubby:

Especially when she ends her show I think each day with be kind to one another.

Barnes:

Is this some kind of mission that got this started to attack her for some reason?

Cubby:

I don't know.

Leslie:

I don't know, the stories just started popping out on Twitter. There was a waitress who said Portia and Ellen complained about her chipped nail on her hand, and apparently the girl almost got fired, but I'm not sure. I just know that once one story comes out, the floodgates open on Twitter as you guys know. But, I'm like you Cubby, you see the show, she's happy Ellen and dancing, I don't want to believe it's true but the stories are out there. And finally, Brie Larson, who I love as an actress, she's in a lot of the Marvel films. She decided that she was going to be a YouTuber and start her own YouTube channel, and I watched the whole 20 minute intro where she had a bunch of YouTubers on with her to announce that she wanted to be a YouTuber. Barnes, what did you think about this? Because I thought it was really funny, it was like 20 minutes.

Barnes:

Now she's won an Academy Award, right?

Leslie:

I think so.

Barnes:

I feel like-

Leslie:

Maybe.

Barnes:

Cubby, can you Google that? I think you're right in front of your machine.

Cubby:

Yeah.

Barnes:

Here's her introduction to coming to the world of YouTube, which was... the whole process was very thought out and interesting.

Brie Larson:

Hi, I'm Brie Larson, oh God. I'm Brie Larson, I'm an actor, you might know me from Captain Marvel, or maybe you know me from nothing! Maybe you just randomly from the algorithm clicked on this, but regardless hello, I'm starting a YouTube channel! Why am I starting a YouTube channel? Great question. YouTube has been a place that I have learned so much. Whether that's been how to use my printer, or it's been watching how to be a considerate activist. This is the place to talk about things that are important and that matter. It doesn't mean that there isn't also silly content, but there's ways for me to express myself personally, but there will also be deep conversation, anti-racist rhetoric, inclusive content-

Barnes:

So she's done the smart thing, she's reached out... did she win an Academy Award, Cubby?

Cubby:

Yeah, she has a Academy Award, a Golden Globe Award-

Barnes:

I thought so.

Cubby:

Screen Actors Guild Award, and a British Academy Film Award.

Leslie:

That's a lot.

Barnes:

So she reached out to all these big YouTubers, and she's trending like crazy right now on YouTube. This is just a quick snippet, this is iJustine:

iJustine:

What kind of videos are you going to make?

Brie Larson:

I don't know!

iJustine:

Do you have any ideas? What are your top three favorite things?

Brie Larson:

I love talking to people, I love learning, I love food, I love video games.

iJustine:

Me too! What do you play?

Brie Larson:

Oh my gosh, well mostly Nintendo.

iJustine:

Really?

Brie Larson:

Do you play Animal Crossing?

iJustine:

I have over 560 hours, I'm disgusting!

Barnes:

So Brie Larson is full throttle into YouTube, but that was a smart move.

Leslie:

I love her personality.

Barnes:

The way she did it.

Russel Hitchcock:

What did she win her Oscar for?

Barnes:

Ooh, Cubby?

Cubby:

I believe... something called Room?

Leslie:

The Room, or Room.

Russel Hitchcock:

Oh, okay. Yeah.

Cubby:

Do you know it?

Barnes:

I don't know much about Brie Larson, she's somehow not on my radar.

Cubby:

I'm sure the Twitter police will call me out if I'm wrong, but she's been in some big movies, though. Wasn't she in Avengers?

Barnes:

A lot of that big Marvel stuff, which I don't watch, which is why I don't know her.

Cubby:

Neither do I, I don't watch the Marvel stuff either. I've never been into Super Man, or Spider Man... I've never been into that.

Barnes:

We're the two people that didn't.

Cubby:

Right.

Barnes:

So all this season, because of coronavirus The Bachelor has gone to doing the greatest of all time, and they have done a full season a night. So Cubby, this would have been the best time for you to catch up by the way.

Cubby:

Yeah, it's like Cliff Notes, it's beautiful.

Barnes:

Totally, a show edited down to such a small part. Our next guest was the first winner of The Bachelor when Alex Michel was the Bachelor. Please welcome to the show, Amanda Marsh! Hey Amanda.

Amanda Marsh:

Hi, good morning! How are you?

Barnes:

This has to be an exciting day for you, I'm good! Thank you for asking. But you are resurfacing after how many years, back on the Bachelor?

Amanda Marsh:

18.

Cubby:

Wow, 18 years.

Barnes:

That's got to be a shock to the system.

Cubby:

Are you going to be watching?

Amanda Marsh:

We're still undecided to be honest. It's like a whole other life really, and to wake that up and see myself as a 23 year old, I don't know how fun that sounds.

Barnes:

All the other past people in the Bachelor have all said they... they were nor protesting it, but they were not happy it was going to be on. Because like you said, you were as 23-year-old with a camera following you around, with a truck load of alcohol involved. That can never go well.

Russel Hitchcock:

Yes it can!

Barnes:

If you're a contestant!

Cubby:

This is why I love Russell so much.

Amanda Marsh:

I mean... it makes for some silly TV, and in the moment, with that alcohol which is needed to forget all of the cameras and the microphones on you and around you, but to [inaudible 00:34:44] all of that, if you have the right concoction. The downside is inner beauty maybe, being the first season, [inaudible 00:34:57] how the system has gone on, and what kind of rigs where there. Not being in the entertainment industry, knowing about how much editing is done, and yeah. Being 23 and being away from home, different circumstances-

Barnes:

You had no model to watch before?

Amanda Marsh:

Yeah, no model.

Barnes:

You had nothing to know what to expect! Well Amanda's got some history, Amanda... Leslie you don't know her because she filled in for you on the Morning X years ago right after the season ended, for a whole week.

Leslie:

And Amanda, I never had a chance to thank you for doing that, so years later I want to say thank you for filling in on the Morning X.

Barnes:

Amanda's a great person.

Amanda Marsh:

So sweet. Never could fill your shoes, but it was such a fun time.

Barnes:

Amanda and I became friends after that, for many years... well since then have been friends, she went with us to Anguilla, what was that, last year? Two years ago?

Amanda Marsh:

Yeah, a couple of years ago. Best vacation ever, took my daughter and my lovely family, and we had a great friendship. That's what's beautiful that came out of the Bachelor experience is the people that I have met, truly.

Cubby:

Amanda, if you could fill in everybody, it's been 18 years. Where are you currently, you're married, you mentioned your daughter, tell me everything.

Barnes:

You're getting married, right?

Cubby:

Getting married.

Amanda Marsh:

Yeah, getting married. Yes, I'm engaged to an amazing man, it's kind of funny, he's Chris Evans so I say I have my own superhero because Captain America is Chris Evans. In 18 years, after that show, you kind of are offloaded and you don't know what to do with yourselves, initially I'd decided... I felt that there was an expectation put on me when I'm just a normal person that has bills and a job. So I went back to school, became a nurse, and worked a few years then went back to grad school to become a nurse practitioner where I specialize in dermatology, so that's been my passion. Again, permanent influence from Michel, people were critical and I want to make the most out the patient experience helps me deal with that, be proud of my individuality, and so in dermatology I'm able to do that. I have a wonderful 10-year-old daughter Chloe, who is aware I was on a TV show, she's never seen it, will never see it.

Barnes:

Yeah wait, just wait. Well your edit made you out to be pretty much of a party girl, and the press that went along with it in that season, which was sensationalized greatly of course to get viewers. These edits that people get just shape their public persona from there moving forward, it's kind of scary.

Amanda Marsh:

It is, and again that kind of young, innocent in the moment, you don't realize the kind of being a character... I was from a small town, not living there currently, they really wanted that angle. Definitely back in those days, if you weren't drinking, producers would come out with a tray of margaritas like here, feeding us drinks.

Barnes:

I've been in that house, the size of the bar is massive. The size of... the amount of alcohol in the bachelor house, it's incredible.

Cubby:

Amanda, do you have to sign a lot of paperwork? Do you remember, how much paperwork do you sign going in on the Bachelor?

Amanda Marsh:

Back then it wasn't terrible, I was 22 technically at the time when I signed, it was right before my birthday. I think it was 20 pages, and I don't even know realistically was reading through what I was signing up for-

Barnes:

Probably none.

Amanda Marsh:

Has changed, yeah. I do know now they kind of measure the alcohol, and definitely changed that up over the years.

Russel Hitchcock:

That makes it much better that they measure the alcohol.

Cubby:

What is your... what is your adult beverage of choice, Amanda?

Amanda Marsh:

I'm actually really boring, I drink like I'm a mom, I'm nothing like that 23-year-old Bachelor version.

Cubby:

A little wine?

Amanda Marsh:

I drink wine. Yeah.

Leslie:

What was life like for you right after that show? I mean, I'm sure you were recognized on the street, what did people say to you, what was it like?

Amanda Marsh:

It was pretty overwhelming, I was surprised that it was so popular, and you are recognized immediately. People were asking for my autograph which felt weird, I was just on TV, I wasn't [inaudible 00:39:45] there was no challenge, I didn't feel like it was earned. But it was really overwhelming. And people who not knowing me would think they know you, I just had a huge amount of anxiety with that experience, and tried to navigate... what am I going to do with myself career wise? How socially should I act? I ended up kind of pulling away, got out of entertainment, I was working at a radio station and just wanted to get away from the limelight for a while and reset my life.

Barnes:

Well whatever they put in that alcohol preserved you well, because you look just as beautiful as you did 20 years ago. Now you look exactly the same. People see you-

Amanda Marsh:

You are so nice.

Barnes:

People... it's a fact, look at the pictures from then and now. You'll be on, I know ABC tonight with Chris Harrison. Did they do a where are they now with you, are talking to Chris Harrison on the TV?

Amanda Marsh:

Yeah, there are some special interviews set up to check in and say hi, so we'll see how that goes.

Cubby:

Amanda-

Barnes:

Is Alex Michel going to be on there also? The Bachelor?

Amanda Marsh:

I have no idea! I have no idea. It's kind of a surprise.

Barnes:

Boy, this'll be good.

Cubby:

Amanda, I say you watch it. I know you're very hesitant, but you know if you're in the basement and you find an old video tape-

Leslie:

The basement...

Cubby:

You're like, you know what, let me put this in for a little bit and watch it. Go into it tonight as if okay, I've found an old tape, let's just see what it looks like. It'll be fun I think!

Amanda Marsh:

I'm trying to have a fun attitude about it, there's still a lot of kissing. I just don't know how well Chris will appreciate digesting that, I mean, I don't think anyone wants footage of themselves dating in their twenties.

Barnes:

No, well you wrote a very eloquent piece on Instagram that kind of summed it up, and I think it was it a good sit on the grenade before... who knows what they roll out on ABC, their job is to get viewers, and I thought you've-

Amanda Marsh:

Exactly.

Barnes:

You've laid it out very well for what people should expect. Well, it was great to catch up with you Amanda, I'm sure I'll talk to you soon. Thanks for coming on the podcast with us.

Amanda Marsh:

Yeah! Great to speak with all of you, I appreciate it so much.

Leslie:

Good luck Amanda.

Amanda Marsh:

Stay safe.

Leslie:

Thank you.

Cubby:

Good luck.

Russel Hitchcock:

Nice to meet you Amanda.

Barnes:

See, bye-bye.

Cubby:

And Russell you're a big fan of the Bachelor/Bachelorette as well?

Russel Hitchcock:

Yeah, yeah.

Barnes:

Huge!

Russel Hitchcock:

Huge-ish. We used to-

Cubby:

I can't tell if you're serious or not.

Russel Hitchcock:

No, no.

Barnes:

This is not a lie!

Cubby:

All right! Because I know Barnes is.

Barnes:

Oh, all in.

Russel Hitchcock:

We were lucky enough to do the finale of the Bachelor, what was it, last year?

Cubby:

Oh, that's right! You played in front of them, right? That's right, I forgot about that.

Russel Hitchcock:

But the coolest thing was after the taping was done, we went back to the hotel and all of these ex Bachelor and Bachelorettes came in for a drink, my wife was in heaven because she-

Barnes:

And mine.

Russel Hitchcock:

Was sandwiched between Ben and-

Barnes:

They were freaking out.

Russel Hitchcock:

Some other hunk.

Barnes:

But you and I were secretly freaking on the inside.

Russel Hitchcock:

We were freaking because we'd met some of the girls, women, rather.

Barnes:

They pulled a funny joke on Russell during the soundcheck, for the Bachelor, it was Colton and Cassie's season last season, and they were setting everything up, and they were doing a rehearsal of the song they were going to play and so they had him push down on those little stages that you can roll on to the set. Surprise, surprise, when they started playing their song, the stand-ins for Colton and Cassie, who was it Russell?

Russel Hitchcock:

The amazing Mr. Barnes.

Barnes:

It was so funny. He starts singing and he looked up like, what in the hell are you doing on the Bachelor stage with a rose, and dancing? I was Colton's fill in, it was funny.

Cubby:

That is awesome. Is that when I texted you, by the way? I remember seeing you in the audience.

Barnes:

Yeah, well my friend, Ken is the director. So it was kind of a set up to be fun during the day.

Cubby:

It was cool, I saw you and Heather and I'm like yeah, I know them.

Barnes:

It was fun, it was fun to go watch that.

Leslie:

So obviously the biggest thing to happen over the weekend, Disney+ rolling out the film version of Hamilton and the reviews are spectacular.

Barnes:

It was on in my house non stop, so many Kleenexes all over around the couch, my wife crying like it was the first time she'd seen it.

Cubby:

We watched the first five minutes, and only because we got interrupted by the baby, but I wanted to watch the first five minutes just to see the visual of it, and five-

Barnes:

It looked beautiful.

Cubby:

Beautiful, no, five minutes in I get it already. I already get it. But we haven't seen the whole thing. It's so cool for a ticket that you could never get, now you can finally see it.

Barnes:

And it was shot at the height of it, when the popularity was taking off.

Leslie:

It was shot in 2016, it's just brilliant that this is happening, and I think timing wise with everything going on in the country, it's perfect for this to come out now. (singing)

Barnes:

It is addicting, it's been... through osmosis in my house, the soundtrack has been played forever. And I am not a musical guy on any, any level, but this is the biggest collection of unbelievable talent. If you haven't seen it, do yourself a favor. It's, I want to play a funny clip for you just real quick, this is the guy - Daveed Diggs, he's won a Tony, he's won a Grammy, briefly he talked about when Lin-Manuel contacted him about being a part of this.

Daveed D:

Lin and Chris Jackson and myself and Tom Kail are all in a band together called Freestyle Love Supreme, we were doing a show in New Orleans at the Super Bowl, we were free styling about sports celebrities on ESPN and Tommy came up to me and was like, Lin is writing this rap musical about Alexander Hamilton. I said that's a terrible idea, Tommy said do you want to come do this reading at the Vassar, I said are you going to pay me, he said yes, and so I said yes. And then I got up. And then Lin sent me his demos, I all of a sudden realized this is something very special, even with Lin doing every voice in the show.

Interviewer:

I don't recommend that as a way of experiencing it. I mean, these guys had to do it.

Daveed D:

The songwriting was already... even way back then, I remember listening to those and being like oh damn, my friend who I already thought was amazing, this is very, very good. I didn't know if it would be popular, I still thought it was a bad idea, but it was very well done.

Barnes:

That was from the Kelly Clarkson show. But he's right, it is just every song is fantastic.

Cubby:

Have you seen it, Russell?

Russel Hitchcock:

Oh I couldn't get a ticket for it obviously when it was on Broadway, but I shall be watching it in the near future.

Leslie:

Russell, you were in Jesus Christ Superstar, which was one of my all time favorites. I still listen to that soundtrack.

Russel Hitchcock:

Yeah, that was... well I haven't seen Hamilton, but Superstar is by far the finest rock opera musical I have ever been involved with or seen. I went to the premier of Evita in Sydney and I feel asleep.

Barnes:

Every play I've been to I've fell asleep.

Cubby:

Yeah. So Russell, you're in a mega group here, Air Supply, and I don't know if you know this or not, but you are a part of a category called Yacht Rock. Barnes told me you've never heard of the term yacht rock? You mentioned it earlier on in the show, right?

Russel Hitchcock:

Yeah, I'd never heard of that before.

Barnes:

That surprises me.

Russel Hitchcock:

I mean, we've played on a few of them but I've never had that used as a genre in music.

Cubby:

I'll give you a quick explanation. Yacht Rock is a term, it's coined towards adult oriented rock, and it was music that came out between 1975 and 1984 that had a certain sound, and they call it yacht rock because a lot of the rich people would be on their yachts and cranking up this music because they were very in to it. So I came up with my top 10 yacht rock songs of all time, because I happen to be a fan of yacht rock. So I would love to play you some clips, and this is my list, so if you don't like it, sorry.

Barnes:

You should make an iHeart playlist, Cubby.

Cubby:

That's right, I'll do that on iHeart radio. So if you could guys, I'm going to play these and you chime in on your thoughts. Coming in at number 10, I have Peg by Steely Dan. (singing)

Leslie:

I love that song and era, I love Steely Dan.

Barnes:

I never knew they were saying Peg.

Leslie:

Yeah, Peg! You didn't? Barnes.

Cubby:

Great song by the way.

Russel Hitchcock:

How long do we have to comment?

Cubby:

You can comment right now, what do you think of that?

Russel Hitchcock:

Well it's a great song, but I've had someone babysit my dog sometime ago and I called and I said can you do Saturday night and she said no I can't, I'm going to see Steely Dan. And I said well you'll be bored shitless.

Leslie:

Russell!

Russel Hitchcock:

And then she says Mr Fagen is my cousin.

Leslie:

Ooh.

Cubby:

Foot in mouth.

Barnes:

Ouch. Shut up Beavis!

Russel Hitchcock:

Great song though.

Cubby:

Coming in at number nine on the Cubby top 10 yacht rock songs of all time, I have This is It by Kenny Loggins (singing).

Leslie:

That's a good one.

Cubby:

Good song, right? Come on Russell, give it to me.

Russel Hitchcock:

Great song, great song. Great voice.

Cubby:

Did you ever work with Kenny Loggins?

Russel Hitchcock:

No. We were supposed to do the Hollywood Bowl with him in September but they canned the season.

Cubby:

All right, coming in at number eight I have England Dan and John Ford Coley, I'd Really Love to See You Tonight (singing).

Leslie:

I know every word of that song.

Barnes:

Were they a one hit wonder?

Russel Hitchcock:

Great harmonies.

Cubby:

I believe they were. Twitter police will get on us, but I believe they were.

Barnes:

I think I was like, 10 when that came out.

Cubby:

Coming in at number seven on the Cubby top 10 yacht rock songs of all time, I have Ambrosia, Biggest Part of Me (singing). Thoughts on Ambrosia, Russell?

Russel Hitchcock:

Another great song, I keep saying that. We actually played two or three shows a year with those guys, so great to hear it.

Barnes:

Apparently you don't play many with Steely Dan.

Russel Hitchcock:

No, I don't think they would be forthcoming.

Cubby:

All right, number six I have Boz Scaggs and Lowdown (singing). Yeah.

Barnes:

That's a good one.

Russel Hitchcock:

He's a great guitar player, too.

Leslie:

I got to see Boz last year, his voice still stands. Incredible.

Cubby:

Coming in at number five, I have a song that The Doobie Brothers actually sued over, and I'll explain in a second. It's Robbie Dupree and Steal Away. Do you know this one? (singing) Sounds a lot like What a Fool Believes, which is coming up on my list, but I got to do some research. I think The Doobie Brothers ended up suing Robbie Dupree over that.

Cubby:

All right, Russell, I love you. I love Air Supply, but you did not achieve number one on my list, I'm sorry. But you did reach number four.

Russel Hitchcock:

I'm out of here man, sorry I can't hear this.

Cubby:

No, number four is great! Number four (singing). How did that song come about?

Russel Hitchcock:

Graham, we were in a period of being very broke in Australia. We'd just toured with Rod Stewart in the US and we thought we'd be very successful but we weren't. He went to Adelaide in South Australia, I went to live with my parents again. He called me one day and he said "I think you should come to Adelaide, I wrote a few songs." So I went to Adelaide, and he'd written All Out of Love, The One That You Love-

Barnes:

A lot of love.

Russel Hitchcock:

And Lost in Love.

Leslie:

That's incredible.

Russel Hitchcock:

Including... yeah.

Cubby:

You guys were missing a lot of things, you didn't have air, Air Supply, you're all out of love, the whole band is just missing things.

Russel Hitchcock:

Well actually we're both Geminis, that's an air sign.

Cubby:

Me too, I'm a Gemini! June 1st.

Russel Hitchcock:

Just 15th, me.

Barnes:

Cubby, lastly a quick few Russell story for you, that song made me think of it. During coronavirus, we were having these get togethers still but outside, and one thing that Russell will never do is sing. So I have a music room at my house with drums, guitars, mics. Deanna and I were doing Air Supply on karaoke one night and we're trying to rope him in, we're in the other room and he was staying as far away as possible.

Leslie:

He doesn't want to karaoke his own songs.

Barnes:

Enter cocktails, we were sitting outside, and I was like, you're drinking wine probably. This has come up multiple times, I will not sing... I won't even hum a bar. And after I don't know how many cocktails, he just looks over and goes how's this: "I'm all out of love!" And outside! Outside, breaks into song, and we all just looked at him like, what just happened? He just looked at us and goes "How's that?"

Russel Hitchcock:

I don't remember that.

Barnes:

I bet you don't! It was about a month ago, anyway.

Cubby:

All right guys I'm almost done, I'm sorry for running late. Number three on my top 10 yacht rock songs of all time, I have Rupert Holmes, Escape (The Piña Colada Song). (singing)

Leslie:

It's got to be a guilty pleasure for a lot of people. (singing)

Cubby:

Definitely guilty pleasure.

Barnes:

I'm all of those things, I don't care for yoga, I like making love at midnight, and I like piña coladas in the rain. All the things he says!

Russel Hitchcock:

That's right. That's a cheese ball song.

Barnes:

Yeah. It's a great guitar lick though.

Cubby:

Number two, I mentioned it earlier, I'm putting in The Doobie Brothers with A Fool Believes (singing). Which sounds like number five! (singing)

Barnes:

Totally.

Leslie:

It sure does.

Cubby:

All right, and the number one song, I wish I had a drum roll but I don't, on the Cubby top 10 yacht rock songs of all time, Christopher Cross and Ride Like The Wind. (singing) I always thought that Christopher Cross sounded like he was walking away from the mic, like ooh. Ride Like The Wind.

Barnes:

Good list Cubby.

Cubby:

Thank you very much, I hope you enjoyed it.

Leslie:

Excellent.

Cubby:

I didn't want to play you-

Russel Hitchcock:

Great list. Great number one, he's a very good friend of ours, Christopher. We do shows with him as well.

Cubby:

Please tell me he's a nice guy, like you.

Russel Hitchcock:

Beautiful guy.

Cubby:

Good.

Barnes:

Put that on the iHeart radio app, make that playlist, people will be all over it.

Cubby:

I will! I will.

Barnes:

All right everybody, Russell thank you for hanging out with us.

Russel Hitchcock:

What a pleasure, great to see you guys, thank you guys, all the best.

Barnes:

So much fun.

Leslie:

You've been amazing Russell, thank you.

Cubby:

You are the man.

Russel Hitchcock:

Thank you.

Barnes:

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